I am facing two issues, which I suspect are related.
The HDDs are rarely spinning down, and generating a lot of noise and heat.
Some of my apps, namely Malware Remover, Multimedia Console, and myQNAPcloud Link, were installed on the HDD pool. I see no option to uninstall or migrate them to the SSD pool.
Other apps installed to the SSD pool just fine.
Is there any way to move these apps to the different pool? Or is there something I messed up in my config that I can fix? Ideally without starting over from scratch…
I have already run the standby_debug.sh script multiple times, but the results are inconclusive to my eye. It’s always something else that seems to be waking up the disks.
Some system/qnap apps can only be installed in the System volume.
That is the default volume for the default shares and apps
It is the first volume created. And it cannot directly be moved.
You should be able to move it by removing it, and then reboot the NAS. That would make the second volume created as System volume. But you would have to re-install the apps and recover data from the default shares.
About the standby, not sure how it works but i saw many people reporting this kind of issue
You will need to rebuild the NAS to use SSDs as the system pool. Back everything up somewhere else. Backup the settings for the NAS as well. Then chose the option in Control Panel to reinitialize it. Shut it down after it’s been reinitialized. Remove the HDDs. Let it boot with just the SSDs. Run Web setup. Once that is all done, shut it down again. Add your HDDs and start it back up. Create your storage pool on the HDDs. Restore your data.
It will take you a while to do but it’s worth it. Now, noise is always going to happen on HDDs. I don’t know if doing this will help with that or not.
Due to constant access to the spanning md9 and md13, there is no GUI way to keep your disks from spinning (only a hard kick of devices off them via SSH)
Ahh, probably not at this stage?
I feel like people are telling me to just restart from scratch, I’ll try that first…
Hopefully if the “system volume” is set correctly all apps will stick to SSDs and HDDs will spin down more frequently?
If it doesn’t fix it, I might reply/update here and seek out (hacky) alternatives… thanks though! Appreciate all replies
Maybe I’m a bit of an idiot when it comes to these things, but I would’ve expected the internal memory (that has the actual OS) and the SSDs (that after re-config will contain all the apps) to take care of all normal activity. And the HDDs should only get spun up when storage on them is being accessed (rarely, a couple times a day for my expected use cases).
Is that really an unrealistic goal? If so I must say I’d be a bit disappointed!
Hmmm maybe going a bit off-topic then, but I wonder in that case if I’m making the right choice doing 2 storage pools separating SSD and HDD?
Would it make more sense to combine them all, and enable Qtier? Is the OS smart enough to then move all these ongoing activities to the Qtier layer giving the HDDs breathing room?
My plan is mainly nightly file+photo backups.
And then some light container usage on the side; Immich, PiHole, homelab experiments, …
You did, it is.
The best thing is to setup the NAS with only the M.2 installed. Let it finish marking it’s territory and getting all the basic out of box bloatware on the SSD “system” partition.
As a TS-264 user I also highly suggest QuTS.
It’s garbage in practice. @dolbyman can fill you in more.
But in short it only has a couple good and working use cases. Everywhere else it does nothing or slows things down + 2 million times higher chance of something breaking and you losing data.
If you don’t know if you should use it, don’t use it.
Basically the same stuff I do on mine.
I can’t complain about performance, but I picked QuTS.
Docker is fun. Array (zraid) snapshots are great.
The way I see it, if you don’t like the noise from the HDDs you have two choices:
1.) Put the NAS someplace where you won’t hear it: closet, basement, under your kid’s bed, etc.
2.) Ditch hard drives and buy SSDs.
I’ve grown up around fans and electronic noise my entire life, mostly. It no longer phases me. I have my NAS units in my basement so no one else hears them but me when I am down there.
But if you buy all SSDs then you won’t get any noise. And it will be pretty fast but also it costs a pretty $$$.
