Wait for QuTS if it ever comes or move on to TrueNAS, etc?

Surely this dead horse could use a little more beating, right?

I was able to manually download and install QuTS Hero onto my TS-1685 (D1531-32G). QNAP doesn’t publish the links but apparently they’re still building and pushing TS-X85 versions, as of h5.2.8.3321 (20251216).

Now my problem is that I’m stuck in Maintenance Mode because it says it can’t find a valid QuTS Hero license, which of course can’t be purchased or generated. Any ideas? Would Support generate a license for me if I submit a ticket?

I did a separate TrueNAS custom PC build to try it out a while ago. TrueNAS Core v13 was okay and then after a while I updated to Community v25, which looks and functions even better, but it seems like they stripped away some of the features in order to paywall them behind the Enterprise version. Ultimately, it ended up causing too many headaches just to do things I can easily configure with my QNAP boxes. So I definitely prefer QTS’s user friendliness and durability/reliability – I just need it to work with ZFS for this project!

So take open a support ticket. See what QNAP says.

I think you will be unhappy with Hero on an Atom processor.

His 1685 should be a Xeon. I could be wrong but mine with 128GB is a Xeon.

Mine has a Xeon + 32GB ECC memory. Strange that the 1655 is officially supported despite being Atom powered.

I opened a ticket, we’ll see what they say…

UGH! I keep mixing up the two. Sorry.

Yeah a Xeon should easily support Hero. And yes, crazy they support Hero on an Atom based unit.

nas2nas, mine is a TS-1685-D1531-128GR-US, and I have tried to find the version of which you speak but, as yet, have been unable to find it anywhere. I will continue to look. If you are able to finagle a license out of QNAP please let us know because I’d still like to go that route if at all possible. The ‘promise’ of QuTS was, after all, what sold me on this particular box in the first place.

Thanks for beating this dead horse!

(This article says that the 1685 supports QuTS hero: Which QNAP NAS models can I use with QuTS hero? | QNAP (US) but there is no download link.

I’m going to open a ticket and see what’s what. (Ticket submitted)

I got a response to my ticket which I have pasted below:

“Thank you for contacting QNAP support.

The TS-1685 does not support QuTS Hero. There was a very short period last year when a version of the QuTS Hero firmware was mistakenly posted for this model but it was removed when we realized it was posted. The few people that were able to download it had to revert back to QTS as there is no upgrade path for it.

I have sent a message to the website team to remove the TS-1685 from the QuTS Hero support page. It should be taken down soon.

Apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

Let me know if you have any questions.”

I guess I will stop flogging this dead horse once and for all.

Happy New Year everyone!

This is not specifically about QNAP but might be interesting to some. I was gifted a Dell Poweredge R740 server with two Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6240 CPUs @ 2.60GHz, 192GiB of ECC memory, dual redundant power supplies, etc. I was able to get a version of ZFS up and running on the server via TrueNAS Community. Maybe it’s like comparing apples to oranges, but this server is amazing in its performance compared to my stable of QNAPs including the TS-1685. QTS allowed me to mount a share located on the Dell R740 via HybridMount and I can RSYNC back and forth as if the Dell was a QNAP. Very cool!

Also, the transfer rate between the Dell and the TS-1685 is spectacular! I was getting transfer rates around 230MBps between the TS-1685 and the old TS-879 Pro over a 10GbE interface and I experience transfer rates of over 850MBps to and from the Dell. ZFS is a memory hog, for sure, because its cache was using up almost all of the 192GiB on the Dell.

(Kudos to QNAP for developing the HybridMount app)

Yeah, it is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

The Xeon Gold is ~ 4.5x the chip of your Xeon 5290 in your 1685 and 12x the chip i3-2120 in the 879.

I would certainly HOPE you would get better performance!

Thanks for the info. And there’s two Xeons in it as well! A friend of mine bought ten of these servers on an auction from a big University all for the sum of $2k and he gifted me one.

Sadly RAM is getting so expensive..but for pure compute I got a discounted DELL Optiplex with i9 285,for 400 bucks + 64GBRAM for 250 bucks when it was still cheap) that blows everything out of the water in terms of raw CPU power almost 60k passmark with a 5k single core rating..a beast ( I converted it to a promxmox compute node with storage on my h1288X)..just wow

I added a RTX Quadro 2000E 16GB to play around with as well

Sounds like a thing of beauty.

Wow! Nice friend! That sounds like a great machine.

It is an amazing machine. It came from clean room at a medical teaching hospital in Ohio so it was very, very clean without a sign of dust, etc. And I’ve not been used to seeing computer equipment that was actually designed and built to be maintainable. It appears that even a screw driver is unnecessary to gain access to all the lowest replaceable units for R&R. Even the six internal fans are of the modularized plugin hot swap variety, as are all the PCIe cards, the 24 slots for memory, the two 750W power supplies, etc. It would be a joy to actually have to work on one in the field. It has several fiber channel disk interfaces as well as four built in 1GiB NICs, and two SPP+ port expansion cards.

Anyway, sorry about the diversion from QNAP hardware which is why we are all here.

If your friend wants to gift another one, I am happy to share my address with you! :smiley:

I’ll let him know and let you know what he says. 73’s