Excited for the new QNAP products shown at Computex 2025

it’s on YouTube !
QNAP QuTS Mega
QNAP 6020SEB 60 bay QNAP
QNAP TL-D810 USB4 8 bay expander
QNAP USB4 to dual 10G adapter
QNAP USB4 to dual 25G adapter
QNAP TS-h974TX with four U.2 slots and five SATA slots
QNAP TS-h2477AXU-RP 24 bay AMD Ryzen based NAS
QNAP branded E1S drives (not a requirement !)
QNAP Hybrid Backup Center -

that is a lot of new stuff (and there is more).
Bob

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I rather check written reports than ad infested youpoop videos (adblock is a must)

The TVS-AIh1688ATX looks interesting, I guess they went for core ultra (vs Xeon) to throw ‘AI’ into it.

well - this was the first report of anything - and none of these items are mentioned on the QNAP website - so I got excited.
bob

Wasn’t meant against you … I was just saying what caught my eye of the new products…And I personally just like written reports better…Sometimes youtube videos are great and useful (e.g. tutorials etc) but new product reports, unless there is a distinct need for video reporting, I enjoy more in ‘print’
I guess I just grew up with PC magazines in the 90s, so my nostalgia kicks in.

well - there is not one peep about new QNAP products, except from Robbie’s video on YouTube at this moment - nothing is on the QNAP website (and there are no longer any magazines !) - Neither you or I were willing to fly to Taiwan to see this stuff !

QNAP could have done nice sneak peak post on these forums … keyword “User attraction/engagement”.

Next year I would volunteer do to it … I flew EVA (Royal Laurel) in November from Taipei to Vancouver … I could do it again (hinthint @ QNAP) :grimacing:

It is good you posted that video as indeed these have been flying under the radar for most people who do not frequent NAS Compares where we can also find a “print” version as @dolbyman would say:

Looks like the TVS-AIh1688ATX will become available after all so after half a decade you will be able to offer something new - and more capable - to your customers. I really like that they now have 4 2.5" NVME drive slots, that is a big improvement and will finally give some much needed speed advantage for these slots. Hopefully they have not discarded the internal M.2 slots as they would come in handy for the system SSDs.

It is also good to see that they have expanded the TS-hxx77AXU series with a 24 drive version and the new TB / USB4 adapters look interesting, too.

the problem with the TVS-AIh1688ATX is the price of the U.2 NVMe drives. Most pro users want a LOT of storage, and unless you are willing to keep transfering your data from the 4 U.2 drives onto the SATA RAID array, this will be crazy expensive.
QNAP can now sell Phison Pascari U.2 NVMe drives directly. A single Phison 7.68 TB U.2 NVMe drive from QNAP is $976, and a single 15.36 TB Phison U.2 drive is $1874. So if you do a RAID 5 with the 4 U.2 drives, that is $7496 for about 46 TB of usable storage. Do you think that people will pay this amount of money ? This is why it’s so hard to get TS-h2490 and TS-h1290FX systems installed. The QNAP pricing is great. The issue is the crazy price of the U.2 NVMe drives. And Phison is CHEAP compared to the other manufacturers.
Bob Zelin

That is rather stiff pricing but it is not like the 4 regular SSD slots weren’t a dead end - they had to do something about that.

If I would be getting one of those I would probably use it for special stuff and let the regular HDD Raid take care of the rest as U.2 SSD prices seem to have gone up in the years since I last checked. My choice might be to get one of those U-2 to M.2 adapters and combine with a couple of WD SN850X M.2 that at least go up to 8TB and their per TB price is almost half of what they charge for the U.2 drives.

I agree with you - but even with the 8TB M.2 NVMe drives in an adapter (IF THAT WORKS !) - you still want to do RAID 5, and not RAID 0, so now you have 3 x 7.68 TB (8TB drives are 7.68 TB) - so that is 23 TB of usable storage, and you are paying $620 per drive - so that is $2480 for the 4 drives for 23 TB of usable storage. PLUS $49 each for the U.2 to M.2 Adapters. I wonder how many people will do this.
Bob

Probably not too many. With shopping around total cost could go down to about 2300$. Overall total cost per TB is still rather deplorable and even in a best case scenario it is hard to get below 100$ per usable TB.

But then that is what you have to be willing to pay if you want to saturate those dual 25G / 50G / 100G connections!